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Snow Storm Threatens Stream Flooding

A flood watch is active in the north central part of Wyoming. Recent warm weather combined with a spring snow storm is speeding up the already high levels of runoff in the state s mountains. Streams in the eastern and central part of the state are also beginning to run high: in the Shoshone, Big Horn, Wind, and Powder River Basins. In the Wind River Mountains, snow pack is 237-percent higher than usual according to the emergency management agency in Fremont County.

Pat Kondas, the public relations officer with the county s emergency management, said officials from Homeland Security and the National Guard have set up barriers filled with dirt at critical points to redirect runoff from overflowing streams. She said it’s still just pre-emptive work. Flooding has not started and it won t until whatever s melting comes down from the mountains. Kondas said residents can pick up their own sandbags at road and bridge shops around Fremont County.

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier Pre-Commissioning Unit Gerald R. Ford heads out to sea for the first time under its own power for builder s trials. The future USS Gerald R. Ford is the first in a new class of American supercarriers. Photo credit: United States Department of Defense

The modern aircraft carrier is a global symbol of American dominance, hegemony, peace, even empire. But at over 1,000 feet long, and displacing more than 100,000 tons, is it a sitting duck? Is the massive emblem of American greatness just an obsolete, vulnerable hunk of steel?


There s a lot of consternation about whether or not the United States should even have massive supercarriers anymore[1]. Obviously, the answer here is depends on how much explosives you ve got. But while sinking an aircraft carrier is difficult, it s not impossible. The key is what it s used for, and who it s used against. But if you wanted to sink one, here s what you d have to do, and what you d be up against.

(Professor Robert Farley is a specialist in military diffusion, maritime affairs, and national security at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky. He took exception to our original piece on carrier vulnerability[2], and seeing as how he s an expert, we offered him a chance to do us one better. – M.B.)

A History Of The Modern American Aircraft Carrier

The U.S. defense community has debated whether or not aircraft carriers are a bit pointless since the late 1940s. In World War II, aircraft carriers became the decisive weapons of naval warfare. Technological developments at the end of the war put the carrier s survivability into question, however. Precision-guided missiles (unmanned Kamikazes, in a sense) and high performance true submarines threatened to make carriers impossible to defend, especially in combination with nuclear weapons. Advertisement

Nuke a carrier, and it s sort of game over, really. Nuke anything and things tend to be over. The first crisis over the future of the carrier came with 1949 s Revolt of the Admirals[3], in which the U.S. Air Force argued that aircraft carriers were so vulnerable that they represented an unwarranted expense; the Navy s admirals, as the name suggests, practically revolted at this idea.

Eventually the United States would build its Cold War navy around families of super-carriers, each over 1,000 feet long, that began with USS Forrestal (CV-59) in 1955 and continues to this day with the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78). Advertisement

These ships have become extraordinarily expensive, and they concentrate an enormous degree of firepower in one (potentially vulnerable) platform. Both during and after the Cold War, plenty of analysts not to mention taxpayers criticized the Navy s fixation with the huge ships, and suggested that smaller, cheaper vessels[4] could perform many of the same tasks. For their part, the Soviets spent a great deal of time and money figuring out the best way to kill American carriers, especially after the Navy equipped its carriers with nuclear weapons. Today, China s system of anti-access systems has made U.S. carriers the focus of its attention.

The Importance Of Aircraft Carriers

The core problem for every system dedicated to sinking aircraft carriers is the link between reconnaissance assets, or the things that can spot a carrier, and shooters, the things that can take one down. Submarines, aircraft, and surface vessels can t kill carriers at range if they don t know where those carriers are, and one of the notable differences between an aircraft carrier and an airbase is that the former, obviously, is mobile. Even a supersonic cruise missile can take twenty minutes to reach its target area at maximum range, and a carrier maneuvering at high speed can move ten miles in the same period of time. A massive aircraft carrier can move surprisingly fast for something weighing over 100,000 tons, with a top speed of more than 30 knots, or about 35 miles an hour, which is what you get when you go for nuclear power. The problem is complicated by the fact that the surface ships and submarines firing at such ranges cannot detect the carrier themselves; they need to operate off data provided by other assets, which tends to increase the time and uncertainty associated with targeting decisions. The United States has spent, essentially, 30 years developing and working out a reconnaissance strike complex that includes multiple redundant systems of surveillance and communication, resulting in a kill chain that transfers[5] information in real time from advanced sensor platforms (satellites, submarine listening posts, drones, patrol aircraft) through communications nodes (satellites, aircraft) to ships, planes, and submarines that can launch and guide missiles to targets.

No other country has similar capabilities, even Russia and China. Advertisement


Nevertheless, the Russians and the Chinese continue to try. Here are some of the measures that foes have taken to destroy aircraft carriers, and the countermeasures intended to defeat those foes.

THREAT: Torpedoes

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier A portion remains of the North Korean torpedo believed to have sunk the South Korean warship ROKS Cheonan in 2010. Photo credit: Getty Images

No aircraft carrier has ever been hit by a modern torpedo of any sort, so we lack good evidence on how resilient a 90,000-ton ship might be to this kind of attack. The Navy tested a variety of underwater attack mechanisms against the retired Kitty Hawk-class carrier USS America in 2005, but the exact nature of the tests, and their results, remains confidential.

In World War II, submarines sank a total of eight fleet carriers from Japan, the United States, and the United Kingdom, beginning with HMS Courageous in 1939. And during the Cold War, the Navy identified Soviet nuclear submarines as a critical problem for carrier battle groups. As evidence from exercises indicates[6], submarines continue to pose a threat to aircraft carriers. To kill a carrier, a submarine needs to avoid escorts and patrol aircraft by either remaining stationary and waiting for a carrier to happen along, or by approaching a carrier quietly. In the open sea the latter is a difficult task, as carriers move at roughly the same speed as modern subs. Navies closely guard the effective ranges of standard homing torpedoes, but most sources agree on 35 to 40 miles at maximum. Modern torpedoes explode underneath a ship in order to break its back and cause extensive, fatal flooding. The Russian Navy has developed extremely fast supercavitating torpedoes[7], but details on their operational status and practical effectiveness remains thin.


The main solution to the submarine problem is to prevent submarines from moving into attack positions. Historically, this has involved multiple ways to detect and destroy enemy submarines, including carrier-borne anti-submarine aircraft, helicopters launched from escorts, land-based aircraft, and escorts themselves (including both surface ships and submarines). Advertisement


During the Cold War, the Navy had enough confidence in its ability to find and kill Soviet subs that it could envision using carriers in major offensive operations against Soviet territory in the Arctic and in the Pacific.

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier A Chinese sub transits during a 2009 fleet review. Photo credit: AP

The Navy s anti-submarine warfare (ASW) capability has decayed since the Cold War with the retirement of the S-3 Viking patrol aircraft and the Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates, but then Russia has fewer subs than it did during the Soviet period, and China s long-range nuclear submarines are considered relatively loud and easy to track. Quieter diesels lack the legs to remain on station in the areas that aircraft carriers will operate, and the speed to keep up with the battle groups.

Submarines are not as easy to link into a system of command and control as aircraft and surface ships, either, and hence tend to react more slowly to intelligence. Nevertheless, a sufficient number of carefully deployed submarines can pose a significant threat to any carrier group. If all else fails, most submarines and surface ships carry a variety of counter-measures designed to confuse homing torpedoes. These include noisemakers and decoys intended to distract the torpedo; the Russians and Chinese have wake-homing torpedoes designed to defeat these defenses.

THREAT: Cruise Missiles

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier The Yakhont, a Russian supersonic anti-ship cruise missile. Photo credit: Russian Ministry of Defence

The first naval cruise missiles saw duty in World War II, when German aircraft used precision-guided glider bombs to attack Allied and Italian ships. In the Cold War, the Soviets developed an array of platforms to launch cruise missiles against U.S. carrier battle groups, including submarines, surface ships, and aircraft. The USSR developed the Tu-22M Backfire bomber specifically to conduct cruise missile attacks against Navy carrier battle groups. Advertisement

China has taken a similar approach, using a variety of different cruise missiles launched from different platforms to threaten US carrier groups. Most of these missiles travel to their target near sea level in order to avoid detection, popping up towards the end of flight in order to inflict maximum damage. This profile makes the missiles difficult, although not impossible, to engage with surface-to-air missiles and defensive fighter aircraft. Most cruise missiles require programming at launch, getting them to a specific area before they can identify and select targets on their own, but some missiles have more advanced systems that allow them to detect and discern between targets at long range.


As with torpedoes, the way to avoid cruise missile attacks has been to prevent platforms from coming close enough to aircraft carriers to reliably launch their missiles. For surface ships the problem is relatively simple, and few expect that Chinese or Russian surface vessels can close to within reliable firing distance of a U.S. carrier before being destroyed, what with the wide-reaching net that American naval aviation can cast far in advance of a carrier group. Cruise missiles complicate the threat posed by submarines, but the principle remains the same; destroy the submarines before they can close within firing range. Aircraft launched cruise missiles (ALCMs) pose a different problem, as aircraft (due to altitude and the curvature of the earth) can identify a carrier group from greater distance than a sub or ship. To defeat aircraft, carrier groups rely on a combination of surface-to-air missiles (launched from Aegis cruisers and destroyers) and fighters flying combat air patrol. Advertisement

In the Cold War, this evolved into a complex game[9] between the U.S. and the USSR; the Soviets needed good intelligence to justify the launch of a large number of bombers, many of which they expected to lose. The Navy developed decoy techniques to trick the Russians into launching mass sorties, intended to gut Soviet capabilities and deter the Soviets from launching at all. The Navy developed the F-14 Tomcat to counter the threat of ALCMs; with a big radar and a long range air-to-air missile AAM, the F-14 could provide distant protection for a carrier battle group. The Navy no longer operates F-14s, but the carrier air group still has combat air patrol responsibilities that include not only the destruction of attacking bombers, but also any drones and patrol aircraft that can report real-time data on the location and orientation of an aircraft carrier.


No cruise missile has ever struck an aircraft carrier, although missiles have had mixed results against smaller warships. Anti-ship missiles were used extensively during the Iran-Iraq War,[10] and generally failed to sink large oil tankers. But a cruise missile can cripple a carrier by damaging its flight deck, even without sinking the ship.

THREAT: Go-Fast Boats

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier Iranian naval speedboats. Photo credit: Iranian State Television

While the threat that small boats pose to major warships has been apparent for some time, the Pentagon s Millennium Challenge 2002[11] exercise brought the issue to mainstream attention. In that controversial exercise, small fast boats carrying suicide payloads inflicted heavy damage on U.S. naval forces. Red strategy built off of the successful Al Qaeda attack against the destroyer USS Cole in 2000, as well as the history of Iranian small boat operations during the Iran-Iraq War. Referees eventually prohibited some of the most effective Red techniques in order to give U.S. forces a fighting chance. Even a heavily laden suicide boat would struggle to sink a supercarrier, but they could give the crew a very bad day and reduce the ship s effectiveness for an extended period of time.

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier


Most small boats lack the range to find and successfully attack aircraft carriers in the open sea. Any boats that did find a carrier battle group would need to navigate a phalanx of well-armed helicopters and escort warships, most of which would boast actual Phalanx gun systems that could chew small vessels to pieces. As such, the only real threat the small boats pose to an aircraft carrier come from a surprise attack when the carrier is either stationary, or transiting a narrow, well-traveled section of ocean. These are serious, but hardly existential, threats to the future of the aircraft carrier.

THREAT: Ballistic Missiles

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft CarrierWhat It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier


In the late 2000s, intelligence emerged that China was developing a variant of its DF-21 medium range ballistic missile (MRBM) that could hit mobile targets. The missile could purportedly maneuver in its terminal (approach) phase, making it possible to strike something as small as a moving aircraft carrier with a high degree of reliability. U.S. analysts believe that the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) can strike targets up to 900 miles from its launch position. But perhaps most importantly, the kinetic energy alone of the warhead, traveling at extreme speeds in its final phase, would devastate an aircraft carrier, leading at the very least to the end of its mission. Although it has received less attention, the Russian Iskander M short range ballistic missile (SRBM) can potentially perform the same trick.

What It Would Really Take To Sink A Modern Aircraft Carrier

Weapons that haven t been tested don t exist, as the saying goes, and the DF-21D has not, to any visible indication, undergone realistic operational testing. Such testing demands much more than simply showing that the missile can terminally maneuver. It requires demonstrating the capability that the Chinese military can master every link of the kill chain between finding a carrier and putting a missile on its flight deck; there is no indication thus far that the PLA has conducted the kind of intensive training and testing necessary to ensure the capability. China has launched a number of surveillance satellites presumably designed to support the Df-21, but these satellites may not be reliable under wartime conditions. China could develop longer-ranged versions of the missile, but this simply multiplies the problems associated with target location.


Still, the Navy has taken the ASBM threat very seriously. The U.S. response to anti-ship ballistic missiles involves a combination of basic offensive and defensive measures. On the offensive side, the U.S. expects to target enemy ballistic missile launchers in the early part of any conflict, although the effectiveness of strikes against targets that are either mobile or potentially hardened remains in great question. The US will also use electronic means of attack to blind enemy sensors, preventing them from relating accurate targeting data to launchers. On the defensive side, the Navy will try to defeat ASBMs through kinetic and electronic means. The kinetic approach involves using interceptors (the Raytheon SM-3 Standard missile), based on Aegis-equipped escorts, to destroy the ASBMs as they approach the carrier. The electronic approach would involve targeting the terminal guidance systems of the missiles as they approach the carrier.


Without extensive realistic testing, we have no idea of the effectiveness of these counter-measures; they may depend on tactical factors (how much of an early warning there is, the distance to the target, and the number of missiles) unique to each engagement. But for every salvo of Df-21 ASBMs, we can expect that U.S. escorts will shoot some down, that others will fall harmlessly into the sea, and that some may strike U.S. ships, including aircraft carriers. In case of war, China or Russia will attack U.S. carriers under the most advantageous circumstances, possibly including surprise. They will employ multiple systems in order to confuse and overwhelm U.S. defense. They will rely on the threat of attack to keep U.S. carrier battle groups as far as possible from the main theaters of operation. Thus, the U.S. Navy (and by extension, the U.S. government and the public) should take all of the above weapon systems seriously. Advertisement

But the observation that the enemy has a missile or torpedo that can kill a carrier only begins a conversation about carrier vulnerability. Shooting anything at an aircraft carrier is a costly, difficult operation.

And beyond the monetary cost, launching an open attack against an American carrier strike group, with its own cruisers, destroyers, and submarines, is almost certainly a suicide mission. So there are two questions that remain for anyone who thinks they even have a shot at taking down one of these enormous steel behemoths. Advertisement

Can you do it? And even if you can, is it worth it?

Rob Farley teaches national security and defense courses at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky. He is the author of Grounded: The Case for Abolishing the United States Air Force, and the Battleship Book. Find him on twitter @drfarls[12].


  1. ^ whether or not the United States should even have massive supercarriers anymore (
  2. ^ our original piece on carrier vulnerability (
  3. ^ Revolt of the Admirals (
  4. ^ smaller, cheaper vessels (
  5. ^ kill chain that transfers (
  6. ^ from exercises indicates (
  7. ^ supercavitating torpedoes (
  8. ^ easy to track (
  9. ^ complex game (
  10. ^ during the Iran-Iraq War, (
  11. ^ Millennium Challenge 2002 (
  12. ^ @drfarls (

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested in Bismarck

by C.S. Hagen | .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) | News | April 18th, 2017

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

BISMARCK – The disguised DAPL security guard set free by law enforcement last year after reportedly driving crazily toward the main Standing Rock camp armed with a semi-automatic AR15, was arrested Tuesday on unrelated charges, according to police. Kyle James Thompson, 30, was arrested at 8:03 p.m. Tuesday for simple assault domestic violence, carrying a concealed weapon, and for possession of schedule I, II, and III drug paraphernalia, according to the Burleigh County arrest records. By Wednesday afternoon the domestic abuse charge was dropped, leaving two Class A misdemeanor charges: carrying a concealed firearm in his vehicle, and possessing drug paraphernalia, namely syringes and spoons, to consume methamphetamine, according to the Burleigh County Clerk of Court.

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

Bismarck Police Officer David Haswell stopped Thompson s car on East Broadway Avenue in Bismarck for a welfare check, according to Clerk of Court records. Police were notified by witnesses that a male subject was hitting a female subject in the car, Haswell reported. I made contact with the driver, Kyle Thompson, and asked him to exit the vehicle. While he exited the vehicle I noticed a handgun concealed between the driver seat and the center console. In the backseat, Thompson allegedly also had a rifle, Clerk of Court documents reported. Officers also located a small zipper case inside the vehicle with multiple syringes, spoons, a white residue, a grinder with residue, and a glass smoking device, Clerk of Court documents said.

The capped needles field tested positive for methamphetamines, Haswell wrote. Thompson does not have a concealed carry permit.

Nearly six months ago when law enforcement took over the Standing Rock s Treaty Camp, pitched in the Dakota Access Pipeline s route, Thompson was arrested by Bureau of Indian Affairs agents after activists slammed a vehicle into his pickup truck. He was disguised as a water protector in a t-shirt and bandana covering his face. A short foot pursuit ended in a pond near the camp where according to video reports and interviews with activists, Thompson fired his weapon twice.

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

In November 2016, Thompson and the Morton County Sheriff s Department reported that the Federal Bureau of Investigation found no evidence that Thompson fired his weapon. Documents linking Thompson to Thompson-Gray LLC, a security firm, were found inside the pickup truck.

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

After BIA agents handed Thompson over to Morton County officials, he was released, and he was called a victim by Morton County Sheriff Kyle Kirchmeier.

Three days ago on October 27th, I was in a situation in which myself and others were faced with the difficult decision to take another s life or not, Thompson said on his Facebook page shortly after the ordeal. I drew out my rifle after my vehicle was disabled and over 300 protesters were rapidly approaching my location, a few had knives and were dead set on using those knives. The man who stopped him, Brennon BJ Nastacio, a Pueblo Native American from Boulder, Colorado, was placed on Morton County Sheriff s Department s Most Wanted List. He turned himself in and now faces felony terrorizing charges. Nastacio has had a preliminary hearing where he said the judge already set a court date of October 5.

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

I found that to be fishy, Nastacio said. But I pray that he [Thompson] finds help that he needs while being incarcerated. People are so quick to wish bad and talk negative, I am not one of them. I think we endured enough bad and negativity and to add more just isn t how I was raised. So I am hopeful that this is a wake up call for him to stop walking down that path of destruction. Nastacio remains hopeful that his name will be cleared. But I am aware that my case is in a county where 92 percent of the people there think that we are guilty. I can only be hopeful and pray for a good outcome.

Thompson-Gray LLC is listed under Silverton Consulting International, according to the Ohio Secretary of State. The company was not authorized to work in North Dakota, the state s Bureau of Criminal Investigation reported. Rumors at the time when trained dogs attacked activists in September 2016 reported G4S, a U.K.-based security company that often goes by nickname the Chaos Company, was involved as the Dakota Access Pipeline s private security firm are unfounded, and denied by G4S staff. G4S does have multiple companies established in North Dakota, according to the North Dakota Secretary of State. Charles Graham Clifton is listed as the owner of Ohio-based Silverton Consulting International, a new company reported as shady in online reviews. Clifton is also the owner of AMGI Global, Ltd. Co., now dissolved for tax reasons in Texas, Knightsbridge Risk Management, now dissolved for noncompliance in Colorado. He has connections to the ISSE Foundation Inc., Red Rock Ordnance LLC, and Red Rock Armory, all dissolved for tax issues in Texas, the Lodestar Services International, dissolved in Colorado in 2011, and Humanitarian Defense, dissolved for tax reasons in Wyoming 2010.

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

Joshua P. Franke-Hyland once worked with Clifton at AMGI Global, Ltd. Co., he said. It was a 100 percent failure, Franke-Hyland said. Clifton is a scam artist with a very long history of scamming people of all types.

Armed DAPL Mercenary Arrested In Bismarck

Clifton is on the run, Franke-Hyland said, from bench warrants for felony theft and civil lawsuits. Franke-Hyland believes the use of attack dogs was issued by Barbara Colliton, Clifton s partner and frequent registered agent. Colliton was arrested in December 2016 but released in Taylor County, Texas after restitution was paid, Franke-Hyland said. Another company that used attack dogs on September 3 was the Ohio-based Frost Kennels, whose owner, Bob Frost, admitted to using the dogs on September 3, 2016.

We went out there to do a job and we did it, Frost said in September 2016. So we just said f*ck it, and got our dogs, and tried to make a bridge between them and the workers. Morton County Sheriff s Department said the companies involved as security firms for Dakota Access LLC on September 3 were not licensed to work in North Dakota, but did not file any charges against security personnel or companies involved.

Franke-Hyland sued Clifton in Bexar County, and Clifton also is listed as being sued in Bastrop, Texas.

Clifton s dream is to be G4S-AMGI, and was supposed to be Clifton s answer to G4S, Franke-Hyland said. AMGI, like everything else Clifton touches, was complete sh*t. He is a risk in every sense in the word. His best day is as an incompetent short con that refuses to pay the bills.

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